Josaleigh Pollett • The Witness • 2026

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“The Witness is a song about knowing that to be seen and held and understood, you must first see and hold and understand. It’s about love, beyond limits and gender, across multiple universes. It’s also a little bit about deleting my Twitter account. This album is an exploration of what it takes to quiet the noise of geographical and emotional distance in order to hear ourselves and the ones who see us.

In true independent DIY fashion and similar to 2023's In The Garden, By The Weeds, If I Let It Quiet is recorded mostly at home between my Salt Lake City makeshift home studio and Jordan's apartment in Japan. The difference this time is that we're bringing in more collaborations. In particular, Andrew Goldring, who in addition to mixing and mastering, brought deeper instrumentation to If I Let It Quiet.” 

– Josaleigh Pollett

ifitbeyourwill S06E13 • The Hidden Cameras

A Canadian indie original walks into a Berlin studio and comes out with a record that swaps pews for pulse without losing its soul. We sit down with Joel Gibb of The Hidden Cameras to explore Bronto—how it was written across years and cities, why new instruments still spark his best songs, and what it takes to reinvent a beloved project without erasing its DNA. From the first gallery shows and that infamous “tones and drones of gay folk church music” tag to a slow-build electropop finale that took nearly two decades to land, Joel opens the notebook and lets us in.

We talk about the nine-year gap between albums and the quiet labour hidden inside it: tours that consumed seasons, pandemic delays, and long days auditioning sounds in Logic while folding in analogue synths for grit. Joel explains why he recorded vocals alone in Berlin, worked with Nicholas in Munich, and called on Owen Pallett in Toronto for strings—an international thread that gives Bronto its depth. Genre becomes a lens rather than a fence; he’s chased “goth,” “country,” and now “dance,” while staying true to the melodic bite and lyrical candour that defined The Hidden Cameras.

On the road, Joel is keeping it taut and human: train rides, a guitar, a kick drum, and tracks for the bangers. He shares why solo shows feel lighter and more focused, how he chooses setlists that bridge old hymns and new hedonism, and why some ideas need time to find the right frame. If you’re curious about creative process, gear as muse, or how a scene shift can change your sound without breaking your heart, this conversation delivers a rare, grounded look behind the curtain.

If you enjoyed this, follow the show, share it with a friend who loves indie lifers and sonic reinvention, and leave a rating or review so more listeners can discover our conversations.

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Canadian singer and songwriter Joel Gibb transforms his long-running indie-pop band into a Berlin-based subterranean house factory. pitchfork

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The Hidden Cameras • How do you love? • 2025

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The Hidden Cameras are a Canadian indie pop band formed in 2001 by singer-songwriter Joel Gibb. Known for their blend of melodic pop, orchestral arrangements, and provocative lyrics exploring queer themes, the band gained early recognition for their theatrical live shows featuring go-go dancers, choirs, and string sections.

Their debut album The Smell of Our Own became a cult favorite, followed by critically acclaimed releases like Mississauga Goddam and Awoo. Over the years, The Hidden Cameras have remained a unique voice in indie music, mixing intimacy, activism, and baroque pop sensibilities. Rough Trade

Nation of Language • Dance Called Memory • 2025

Synthpop, minimal wave, post-punk, goth, new romantic — fans and critics alike have dug deeply into their vintage thesauruses to describe the beguiling work of Nation of Language. 

OK Go • Take Me with You • 2025

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Since their inception OK Go has been something more than a band and something different from an art project. With a career that includes award-winning videos, New York Times op-eds, collaborations with pioneering dance companies, tech giants, NASA, animators and Muppets, and an experiment that encoded their music on actual strands of DNA, OK Go continue to fearlessly dream and build new worlds in a time when creative boundaries have all but dissolved. Formed as a quartet in Chicago in 1998 and relocated to Los Angeles three years later, OK Go (Damian Kulash, Timothy Nordwind, Dan Konopka, Andy Ross) have spent their career in a steady state of transformation and continue to add to a curriculum vitae filled with experimentation in a variety of mediums. OK Go’s work is in the permanent collection of MoMA, and their achievements have been recognized with twenty-one Cannes Lions, twelve CLIOs, three VMAs, two Webbys, The Smithsonian Ingenuity Award, and a Grammy. The band has also partnered with the Playful Learning Lab at the University of St. Thomas to create OK Go Sandbox, an educational non-profit that provides free resources to teachers that use OK Go's videos as starting points to teach STEAM concepts.

New Order • Lonesome Tonight Live at The Hacienda • 1983

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I walk along the street

I look into your eyes

I'm pleasant when we meet

I'm there when you go home

How many times before

Could you tell I didn't care?

When you turned your back on me

I knew we'd get nowhere

Do you believe in youth

The history of all truth

A heart that's left at home

Becomes a heart of stone

ifitbeyourwill S04E12 • Namra Beatrix Saleem of Crybaby Claire

Namra Saleem, better known as Crybaby Claire, shares her inspiring journey from a small Norwegian town to the bustling streets of Oslo, and how a spontaneous moment at a "nachspiel" with the Talking Heads blaring sparked her passion for music. Without formal training, Namra's determination led her to pick up the guitar and bass, form a band, and explore the energetic realms of punk and Riot Grrrl music. Her story is a testament to the power of DIY artistry as she eventually took an Ableton course to create music on her own, crafting a distinct sound that combines nostalgic elements with raw emotion.

Immerse yourself in the colorful world of Crybaby Claire, where deeply personal lyrics meet upbeat, danceable rhythms. Namra shares how her influences, from Le Tigre to the DIY spirit of Molly Nilsson, shape her music-making process, which often begins with the beat before the melody finds its place. We explore her creative journey, focusing on the authenticity and simplicity that drive her art, and how she captures the raw essence of her first vocal takes to preserve genuine emotion.

The path to a solo career is paved with challenges, but Namra's story is about overcoming fears and finding joy in self-expression. A turning point came when life circumstances prompted her to embark on a solo project, using a cassette player for her first gig's backing tracks and planning to incorporate her cultural heritage into future works. As we anticipate her upcoming EP and live performances, this episode celebrates the courage of a DIY artist stepping into the spotlight, marking the start of an exciting new chapter that promises to resonate with listeners and music lovers alike.

 

With "Baby You Can Hold Me", Crybaby Claire delivers a track that perfectly strikes the balance between melancholy and playful electro pop. The song captivates with its atmospheric synths and carefree vocals, reminiscent of the lightness of the 80s. The minimalist structure and the simple but effective lyrics make the song catchy and ensure that it gets stuck in your head. electrozombies

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ifitbeyourwill S04E07 • Max Bergé of Castle Frank

Can one night change your entire life? Join us as we reconnect with Max from Castle Frank, reflecting on a turbulent yet transformative period following his record launch back in June 2023. Despite the album's acclaim, including a rave review from Exclaim, Max faced a personal crisis on the night of his release show, where excessive drinking led to a subpar performance. This wake-up call sparked his decision to quit alcohol entirely, driving a year of profound personal growth and resilience. Max’s candid recounting of his journey provides invaluable lessons on overcoming both artistic and personal challenges.

But that's not where Max's story ends. In a thrilling new chapter, Max transitions from artist to producer, teaming up with Elliot Isaac on a groundbreaking album blending acoustic, electronic, and hip-hop elements. We'll explore the intricate creative process behind building captivating soundscapes and the unique hurdles and triumphs of remote collaboration. With the first single set to drop in February, this episode offers a sneak peek into the innovative sounds and heartfelt collaborations that will soon grace our ears. Get ready for an inspiring exploration of redemption, creativity, and the relentless pursuit of musical excellence.

 

The wisdom contained within In Your Blood seems preternatural, too great for its bounds. Bergé began work on the album at 19, after arriving in Toronto from the West Coast. The young songwriter wrote the album's nine tracks so as to synthesize his experiences in his new home city. Produced by Nixon Boyd (of now-defunct Hollerado) and Matt Lederman (who's produced and mixed for the Rural Alberta Advantage), the album contains a weather-beaten wisdom, the kind of bravery that a person so young ought not to have shored up, at least not yet. That Bergé possesses the knowledge shared through In Your Blood is part and parcel of the album's gift.  Exclaim!

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ifitbeyourwill S04E05 • Julia-Sophie

What happens when music becomes both a lifeline and a battleground? Julia-Sophie opens up about her late introduction to music within her French family, where singing was a cherished form of personal expression. She candidly shares her journey starting from learning guitar at 16 and writing her first song to honor her grandfather, to the thrill and hard knocks of busking and forming a pop band at 17. The excitement of being noticed by a Sony representative quickly turned bittersweet, leading her band to disband. Julia reflects on those early days filled with fun, naivety, and a sense of camaraderie that shaped her identity as a musician.

Navigating the transition from band life to a solo career, Julia discusses the challenges and rewards of staying true to herself amid tempting but conflicting opportunities, such as turning down a tobacco advert. She provides a unique perspective on the creative process, contrasting the collaborative energy of a band with the solitary freedom and responsibility of solo work. Julia also offers a peek into her latest album, "Forgive Too Slow," where emotions and traditional songwriting structures play a pivotal role.

Finally, Julia takes us through the tumultuous emotional landscape of releasing music independently. From the self-doubt and isolation of working without a record label to the near-abandonment of her album, her story is one of resilience. The unexpected lifeline from Ba Da Bing Records revitalized her confidence and provided a sense of redemption. Julia shares intimate details about facing rejection and public scrutiny. Yet, through it all, she found validation and connection with listeners worldwide, proving that perseverance in the music industry can lead to profound personal and professional fulfillment.

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Princess Goes • “Armageddon Suite (Re-Armed)” • 2024

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"A Bowie influence of futurism, freedom, and reinvention is present in the dozen songs on Princess Goes’ haunting Come of Age."
- FLOOD Magazine

"Princess Goes’ music manages to be both touching and visceral with a collection of mesmerizing songs led by Hall’s arresting voice [...] True to its title, the atmospheric 'Shimmer' features glistening production as Hall’s vocals imbue the song with a dream-like quality."
- UPROXX Indie Mixtape

"Princess Goes are back on the scene with an exceptional album that recalls the heady days of the new wave scene where The Human League, OMD, ABC, Depeche Mode and numerous keyboard leading bands ran rampant in the UK. These guys are totally up to scratch with their own modern take on that scene."
- Louder Than War

"'Blur' showcases a different side to their artistry; it is more ambient and it has a retro ’80s synth-pop new wave vibe to it [...] The bass drum and guitar helps adds to its overall appeal, and the melody ranges from soft to piercing. It has a stirring vibe that will resonate with fans and listeners."
- Digital Journal

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“Elegant and smoky electronic pop…Widescreen and ambitious, embodying both the freedom that comes with independent musicianship.” – The Quietus

“A forward thinking avant-popster.” – Electronic Sound Magazine 

“Captivating synth textures, spiraling melodies, and intricate rhythms.” – The Line of Best Fit

“Mesmerizing…Worlds away from her garage-rock and pop beginnings in DIY bands...you can practically hear her tears within the soft, synth-led soundscape.” – Bandcamp Daily

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CRYBABY CLAIRE • BABY YOU CAN HOLD ME • 2024

Drawing inspiration from the intriguing tradition of professional mourners, Oslo-based CRYBABY CLAIRE merges gloominess with danceable beats. "I wanted to create music one would sob to, but the songs naturally evolved into something more uplifting," she reflects. "It mirrors my own way of coping with sadness—I often find solace in dance, even though allowing myself to shed a tear would bring more balance."

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Jazmin Bean • Addict • 2024

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“One of the most exciting names in alternative music.” - DIY Magazine

“Fast becoming one of alt. music’s breakout stars.” - Kerrang!

“Well versed in the art of ‘very dramatic and cinematic energy.’” - PAPER Magazine

“Offers a glimpse of non-binary style through an individual lens." - Vogue

“Has captivated fans with their intricate makeup looks, eye-catching fashion

and grungy alt-pop songs.” - People

“Although I was struck by the visual of Jazmin Bean, it was their sound that had me absolutely captivated.” - Girl at the Rock Shows

ifitbeyourwill S03 E36 • Diamond Day

In this riveting episode of the "If It Be Real" podcast, hosts dive deep into the musical odyssey of Diamond Day, an innovative band that marries traditional folk roots with modern electro-pop and shoegaze influences. The episode opens with a detailed exploration of the band's genesis, featuring intimate conversations with the creative duo behind Diamond Day, Beatrice and Quinn. Their story is one of artistic fusion, where Quebec's rich folk traditions meet the eclectic beats of modern music.

Beatrice, who was raised in the folk music scene of Quebec, shares her upbringing surrounded by traditional music. Both her parents were folk musicians, which significantly influenced her musical style. She recounts how her childhood was filled with fiddle music, accordion, and acoustic guitar, elements that subtly permeate Diamond Day's music. On the other hand, Quinn's musical journey began with a fascination for guitars crafted by his luthier father and a vast collection of records that exposed him to a diverse array of genres from an early age. This blend of backgrounds creates a unique soundscape for Diamond Day.

The episode delves into the formation of Diamond Day, born out of the creative divergence within their previous project, Rosier. Beatrice's songwriting didn't always align with Rosier's traditional framework, leading her to collaborate with Quinn. This partnership allowed them to explore new, experimental realms while still honoring their musical roots. Their creative synergy is palpable as they discuss how they meld their distinct influences to produce intricate yet accessible soundscapes.

One of the most fascinating aspects of the episode is Beatrice's inventive approach to songwriting. She introduces the concept of "crooked" tunes, where measures or beats are added or removed, challenging mainstream norms. This unconventional style draws comparisons to artists like Kevin Shields and Elizabeth Fraser, who are known for their unique musical structures. The freedom of working as a duo enables Beatrice and Quinn to balance maximalist and minimalist arrangements, creating music that is both complex and inviting.

The podcast also celebrates the enchanting allure of French lyrics in Diamond Day's music. The cultural landscape of Quebec, where French and English coexist, profoundly influences their bilingual songs. This fusion of languages adds an exotic flair that resonates with audiences worldwide, enhancing the band's global appeal.

As the conversation progresses, Beatrice and Quinn discuss their upcoming projects and live performances. They share their excitement about touring the West Coast, from Vancouver to Los Angeles, and hint at new music releases, including remixes by artists they admire. The episode closes with a heartfelt thanks and best wishes for Diamond Day's ongoing success, leaving listeners eagerly anticipating their next musical venture.

Throughout the episode, the hosts provide transcript samples from key chapters, offering a glimpse into the rich, engaging dialogue that characterizes this captivating conversation. The blend of personal anecdotes, musical insights, and forward-looking aspirations makes this episode a must-listen for anyone interested in the dynamic interplay of folk traditions and modern music.

In conclusion, this episode of the "If It Be Real" podcast offers a deep dive into the artistic journey of Diamond Day, a band that masterfully blends the old and the new. From Beatrice's folk-infused upbringing to Quinn's eclectic musical influences, listeners are treated to an intimate look at how these elements come together to create a unique, refreshing sound. The discussion of "crooked" tunes, the allure of French lyrics, and the band's upcoming projects all contribute to a rich tapestry that celebrates the fusion of languages and genres. Don't miss this enthralling episode that highlights the creative evolution of Diamond Day and their innovative approach to music-making.

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From janky glitch-pop drums to jangly guitars on the verge of explosion; Montréal’s Diamond Day reshape shoegaze into their hazy electro dreamworld.

Tanlines • Vanishing Point • 2024

Nightbus • Average Boy • 2024

"New Order-like basslines and pulpy lead guitars…they deliver with the experience of a band well beyond their years"
- NME (First On)

"Atmospheric, a little XX-esque, ‘Way Past Three’ perfectly conjures up the eeriness of the world outside as you leave a party in the small hours."
- The Guardian

"Excellent debut"
- The FADER

"An odd yet intense nocturnal trip" 
- The Line Of Best Fit

"An electronic sound that captures a dark, nighttime aura that’s reflected in their name"
- WhyNow

Annie-Dog • The Pressures of the Heart • 2024

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Taking her moniker from a Smashing Pumpkins deep cut, Annie-Dog crafts bittersweet shapeshifting pop tracks that occupy a mesmerising world somewhere between Grimes and Pinkpantheress.

A true self-starter, Annie-Dog embraces a wholly DIY ethos influenced by a plethora of fellow idiosyncratic artists including Alex G, Dean Blunt and Imogen Heap, self-producing all her forthcoming material alongside drawing inspiration from her personal ephemera collection.

Call Me Spinster • "Married in My Mind” • 2024

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Call Me Spinster’s Rosie Graber on the single: “I was driving the eight hours home from our grandfather’s funeral and had a lot of time to think about my new boyfriend, the institution of marriage, being with someone for life, etc. The lyrics first arrived as a surprise as it was way too early to declare anything, but I made a voice memo anyways and the band jumped on the opportunity to make a song that pays homage to the dreamy, chill relationship with my partner I continue to enjoy. For the visual, we wanted to play with tropes of burlesque and reverse burlesque to capture the playful sexiness of daydreaming and, ultimately, getting sweatpants-cozy. The video was shot on Super 8mm film to create a warm, home video vibe that is intimate, timeless, and full of self-love.”

TORRES • Wake to flowers • 2024

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What an enormous room is TORRES’ sixth studio album (her third with Merge). It was recorded in September and October 2022 at Stadium Heights Sound in Durham, North Carolina. It was engineered by Ryan Pickett, produced by Mackenzie Scott and Sarah Jaffe, mixed by TJ Allen in Bristol, UK, and mastered by Heba Kadry in NYC. The album contains 10 songs. Mackenzie wrote all of them. Sarah played bass guitar, synths, drums, organ, and piano. Mackenzie sang vocals, played guitar, bass, synths, organ, piano, and programmed drums. Additional synth bass, tambourine, and shakers were played by TJ Allen.

Nouvelle Vague • Shout (Feat. Bijou & Marine Quéméré) • 2024

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Nouvelle Vague are back with a new album from 2016. The album will be titled “Should I Stay Or Should I Go?” and will be released in February 2024.